Saturday, June 3, 2017

The 13th Disciple: The Branch from the Stump of Jesse





Question 2: Priests and the Church interpret the branch which grows from the stump of Jesse to be Christ pbuh, is this correct?

Answer: Your question about the branch mentioned in Isaiah:
Isaiah Chapter 11:

[1] There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots shall bear fruit .  [2] And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord . [3] And his delight shall be in the fear of the Lord . He shall not judge by what his eyes see, or decide disputes by what his ears hear, [4] but with righteousness he shall judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the earth; and he shall strike the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips he shall kill the wicked . [5] Righteousness shall be the belt of his waist, and faithfulness the belt of his loins . [6] The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them . [7] The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox .

[8] The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den . [9] They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea . [10] In that day the root of Jesse, who shall stand as a signal for the peoples — of him shall the nations inquire, and his resting place shall be glorious . [11] In that day the Lord will extend his hand yet a second time to recover the remnant that remains of his people, from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Cush, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from the coastlands of the sea . [12] He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth .]

Their interpretation of the branch to be Jesus pbuh is incorrect, and the text rejects their interpretation and conflicts with their ideology .[1] As Jesus pbuh, according to their belief, is the absolute Lord himself, so how does he fear the Lord, and have his pleasure be the fear of the Lord?!! And they might explain this by resorting to the false and con- tradictory belief of the three hypostases, and I clarified its falsehood with proof in The Book of Monotheism .[2]

And Jesus pbuh did not rule and was not a judge among the people, so he was not able to establish justice or fairness to the oppressed ones, so how can the text above apply to him?![3]

And what the text portrayed was not achieved in the time of Jesus pbuh, that the earth would fill with the knowledge of the Lord like water covers the sea, and this knowledge would have an impact that the rich would comfort the poor and that the strong would support the weak and that the earth would be almost free of injustice, etc .

By all means, almost the entire text is far from Jesus pbuh and his call; so for example, did Jesus assemble the banished of Israel (Jacob to them)?? And did he gather the dispersed ones of Judah (son of Jacob to them) from the ends of the earth?? And if they say that he assembled and gathered them by their faith in him, it is also incorrect, because the call of Jesus pbuh, until his ascension, did not go past the boundaries of a few cities . Whereas, we find the text saying that this person gathers the dispersed ones of Judah from the ends of the earth, and the meaning of the text is that in this person’s time of dispatch people from almost all the countries of the world believe in him; rather, from countries far from his place of dispatch in particular (the ends of the earth) . [4]

[12] He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth .]

And the word Judah means “praise” or Ahmad [in Arabic] . According to the Torah in Genesis Chapter Twenty-nine

[35] And she conceived again and bore a son, and said, “This time I will praise the Lord .” Therefore she called his name Judah . Then she ceased bearing .] [5]

And the word Israel means Abdullah [servant of Allah in Arabic] .[6]

So the passage would be: (He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel (Abdullah) and gather the dispersed of Judah (Ahmad) from the four corners of the earth) .

And the dispersed ones who gather like the cumulus of autumn from the corners of the earth to support the Riser (the first Mahdi Ahmad) are the supporters of Imam al-Mahdi pbuh at the end times; and this is known from the narrations of Muhammad and his progeny pbut .[7]


[1] The clerics of the Church interpret the verse, [There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots shall bear fruit] to be Jesus pbuh, and they see that the shoot and branch mean the same thing, and it is certainly unreasonable . And as an example of their interpretation, I mention what Fr . Tadros Yacoub said concerning how the text applies to Jesus: “He did not say the son of David although it is lawfully the son of David, but he wanted to present him in a very humble manner, like a stump and branch of Jesse who lived and died having little regard .” The interpretation of the Book of Isaiah . And they refuse to accept that the Jews apply the text to Hezekiah without proof because he was born before Isaiah’s speech about him, yet we see that they apply the text to Jesus pbuh without proof as well, and it is clear that this verse and that which follows it are far from their interpretation for the reasons which Imam Ahmad al-Hassan clarified, and he gave the meaning of the text in another book saying, “As for Jesse, he is known in the Torah as the father of David pbuh, the prophet of Allah . And the mother of Imam al-Mahdi pbuh is from the lineage of David pbuh . Therefore, Imam al-Mahdi Muhammad bin Hassan al-Askari pbuh is from the lineage of Israel (Jacob pbuh) on the mother’s side, and from the lineage of Muhammad pbuhap on the father’s side . Thus he confirms that he is a shoot from the stump of Jesse, just as the first Mahdi from the twelve Mahdis confirms that he is a branch that comes from that shoot from the stump of Jesse, because he is from the lineage of Imam al-Mahdi .” The Successor and Messenger of Imam al-Mahdi in the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran .

[2] As for their justification concerning the pleasure of Jesus that overwhelms him when fearing the Lord, Fr . Tadros Yacoub says in his interpretation, “The settling of the Holy Spirit over Jesus is different from its settling over us . To him, it is a hypostatic settling; one with him in the essence . With the Father, it is a limitless settling .” And he says, “Thus the settling of the Spirit is not a timely settling, it is rather an eternal union between the three hypostases .” As for concerning refuting the ideology of the three hypostases, read the words of Imam Ahmad al-Hassan in Appendix 1 .

[3] Fr . Tadros Yacoub comments about the verse saying, “Jesus Christ takes a stance oppos- ing that which happened in the days of Isaiah, when the judges would rule according to the faces . This very biased strike usually afflicts those committed to responsibilities of leadership . And the Lord stood firm against this plague, so he would scold the religious leaderships which were inflicted with bias and hypocrisy like the Pharisees and the writers, whereas he would call the children to him with kindness and be gentle to the sinners and the tax collectors .” And it is clear that this twisting of passages is far from the scientific approach, as the passage speaks of a man who rules and is a judge and fills the earth with knowledge and justice and not one who scolds and is gentle .

[4] The clerics of the Church acknowledge that what was mentioned in the text did not oc- cur at the time of Jesus pbuh, but they claim that it occurred later at the hands of the Church . They easily made that claim with no proof . Fr . Antonios Fekry says, “And in that day, meaning the Biblical age ... and this occurred on the day of the Pentecost and then by the preaching of the messengers and then through the Church, It will also happen through the believing of the Jews at the end of days . [He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth .] Isaiah 11:12 . The Church will include all the nations along with the Jews who are dispersed .” The Interpreta- tion of the Old Testament, Isaiah 11 . And maybe he means the Church of the Orthodox, about which Pope Shenouda III said, “The Coptic Orthodox is the only Church of Christ,” whereas the Pope of the Vatican, Benedict XVI, sees that according to the Dominus Iesus Declaration, “This [the Catholic Church] is the single Church of Christ,” and that it alone owns all paths of salvation . And this aroused responses, including that of Fr . Marcos Aziz the priest of the Orthodox Church, where he recommended the Pope of the Vatican to stop the mockery and wake from the coma and not be a toy in the hand of Satan . And surely, the Church which gath- ers diaspora, in the eyes of Martin Luther (who is dissenting from the Catholic Church) is a Church of benefit, and so on .

[5] The explanation of the words (Judah son of Jacob) in The Dictionary of the Holy Book: “It is a Hebrew name meaning ‘praise’ [Hamad in Arabic —Trans .] and he is the fourth of the children of Jacob from Leah, and he was born between the two rivers (Genesis 29:35) and he was given this name because of his mother’s thankfulness at his birth .”

[6] And that is a clear issue, and the narrations clarified it as well, such as the narration from al-Ayashi, ﴾“Abu Dawood narrated from those who heard the Messenger of Allah pbuhap say, ‘I am Abdullah, my name is Ahmad, and I am Abdullah, my name is Israel . What He [Allah] has commanded him then He has commanded me, and what is intended for him is intended for me .’”﴿ Tafsir al-Ayashi Vol . 1 page 44 .

[7] The narrations concerning this issue are many, such as: Abu Khalid narrated that Imam al-Baqir pbuh said concerning this saying of Allah (m), ﴾So race to good . Wherever you may be, Allah will bring you forth all together .﴿ Surat al-Baqara (The Cow) 2:148 . ﴾“The good is the allegiance, and His saying swt, ﴾Allah will bring you forth all together﴿, means the com- panions of the Riser, the three hundred and few more men, and by Allah, they are the counted nation . By Allah, they gather in one hour, cumulus like the cumulus of the fall .”﴿ Al-Kafi by al-Kulaini Vol . 8 page 313 . And this is what is happening today, as different types of people from different countries have believed in Imam Ahmad al-Hassan, and his supporters are in many regions of the world such as the middle east, East Asia, Russia and many European and non-European countries such as the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, Finland, Spain, Australia, Canada, Mexico, Argentina and others .



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